Moral Maze debates patriotism

If you're at a very loose end this evening, you could listen to The Moral Maze on Radio 4 at 8.00pm London time (or on the programme's web site for the next week). The subject - it says here - is "football - or, to be accurate, patriotism". I hope it isn't football, as I'm one of the guests, along with - I think - George Monbiot and Sir Peregrine Worsthorne.