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April 24, 2008


Tim Jones

This reminds me of why I don't watch Newsnight.

The interviewee implicitly concedes a point. The interviewer then tries to make them concede it explicitly. The interviewee refuses to do so, because of the way that the quote will be used against him/her; instead he/she just restates their position. The interviewer, in increasing strains of mock-incredulity, points out the logical inconsistency of failing to acknowledge it explicitly, and so on.

That whole segment could have been done in about ten seconds.

Dave Briggs

On the Newsnight point - Darling and Brown owe Yvette Cooper big time. It was her vs. Paxo, Vince Cable and George Osbourne. She was ripped to shreds, which is exactly why her superiors wouldn't have wanted to be there.


Dear Oliver,

With respect, I don't think Daniel Finelstein and yourself are politically so diverse, despite the fact that he identifies himself as on the right and you identify with the left. On the subject that most strongly appears to guide your political support, Foreign policy, Daniel and yourself seem fairly strongly aligned.

I grant I might have missed something and that there may be articles out there that reveal a political gulf between you.

Many thanks for producing a great blog. It is a daily must read for me.




Sorry, I've just noticed a typo in my post above. It should be 'Finkelstein' with a 'k'.


On the quality of Labour ministers, part of the problem is simply that there are just not very many good MPs on the Labour benches. Gordon Brown cannot be considered responsible for that.

Where he is culpable is that he has actively driven many of the talents that Labour do have, such as Alan Milburn or Frank Field, out of government because they were viewed as potential threats to his leadership.

jesus h christ (himself!!)

Yeah in france what you guys call the new labour we used to call it blairism(blairisme in french), it was/is as much about pragmatic reformism as about charismatic leadership. Many people have said that Sarkozy tried/is trying to follow that path, albeit a little less succesfully.

I'm not a specialist of british politics, but it seems to me that Tony blair was quite the alien in his own party.
The party elected him because they were desperate for a victory and he could deliver just that, but it seems a lot of people didn't really accept what he was trying to do so when the media turned their back on him, the first thing many people apparently though was, "great, let's get rid of him".
Big mistake indeed. Apparently they though people like labour for labour and he was just the name on the ticket when really people liked tony blair even with the labour attached. He could have run with the conservatives and probably won the same way.

Over here it was often said that it is blair who won the elections for the labour over the last 10 years, and many commentators have written about how he influenced the european center left parties like in germany, italy or spain.
No one ever talks about gordon brown.

How does that help with your discussion i don't know, i guess it's just an insight.


Cooper's performance was typical - on the Daily Politics she was the same, she never answers questions and sits pouting with truculent defiance when not speaking. She and Ed Balls deserve each other. The country does not deserve either.

I do not share Oliver's support of Tony Blair. While he made certain people feel good as Reagan (another actor, though unfairly derided as a buffoon) did, he drove a coach and horses through the due process of Cabinet Government, choosing to centralise power in Downing Street. When he left, the smoke dispersed leaving an empty stage.

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